deeAuvil: September 2024

Tuesday, September 10, 2024

Genealogy TV on YouTube

I had never heard of this - but she is really good!

Genealogy TV on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/@GenealogyTV

https://www.facebook.com/Genealogytv/

https://genealogytv.org/

Evidence Explained & The Chicago Manual of Style & Dewey Decimal

I am going to try to figure out how to cite email & letters (AKA correspondence). I will be using Evidence Explained & The Chicago Manual of Style

some of my questions

1. If the email is written to you do you have to send a second email asking if you can cite first email?

I found this myself: Yes you need to get permission from the original emailer. I know this seems obvious, I just wanted to find sources for this answer and I did.

a. Mills, Elizabeth Shown. Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace, 4th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2024), 174.

b. Editorial Staff. The Chicago Manual of Style, 17th ed. (Chicago ; London : The University of Chicago Press, 2017), 851

2. Citing something means the reader should be able to access the original, correct? How can that be if the email is only on the computer and not published?

I'm going to be asking these questions at the Evidence Explained forums

https://www.evidenceexplained.com/forum

And reading The Chicago Manual of Style

(There is an online (CMOS), free trial, and I think you can ask questions there? I will try it and report back)

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Part B citing books when there are multiple editions

I need to be able to cite one particular edition of a book when there are multiple editions.

For this example I am going to use

Pocahontas, Alias Matoaka, and Her Descendants

by Wyndham Robertson 1887

the first thing to look at is the actual title page

Since there was no classification system at this time the only way to distinguish this edition would be to use the publication year (1887) and maybe the page numbers (no, because Internet sources are not consistent on how many page numbers of first edition)?

This is before ISBN, so it won't have one, UNLESS someone assigned a number "posthumously", which it looks like someone did:

ISBN (still searching for isbn number)

The Chicago Manual of Style citation 2024:

Robertson, Wyndham. Pocahontas: Alias Matoaka, and Her Descendants Through Her Marriage at Jamestown, Virginia, in April, 1614, with John Rolfe, Gentleman; Including the Names of Alfriend, Archer, Bentley, Bernard, Bland, Boling, Branch, Cabell, Catlett, Cary, Dandridge, Dixon, Douglas, Duval, Eldridge, Ellett, Ferguson, Field, Fleming, Gay, Gordon, Griffin, Grayson, Harrison, Hubard, Lewis, Logan, Markham, Meade, McRae, Murray, Page, Poythress, Randolph, Robertson, Skipwith, Stanard, Tazewel, Walke, West, Whittle, and Others. United States: J. W. Randolph & English, 1887.

MLA

Robertson, Wyndham, 1803-1888, and R. A. (Robert Alonzo) Brock. Pocahontas, Alias Matoaka: And Her Descendants Through Her Marriage At Jamestown, Virginia, In April, 1614, With John Rolfe, Gentleman; Including the Names of Alfriend, Archer, Bentley, Bernard, Bland, Bolling, Branch, Cabell, Catlett, Cary, Dandridge, Dixon, Douglas, Duval, Eldridge, Ellett, Ferguson, Field, Fleming, Gay, Gordon, Griffin, Grayson, Harrison, Hubard, Lewis, Logan, Markham, Meade, McRae, Murray, Page, Polythress, Randolph, Robertson, Skipwith, Stanard, Tazewell, Walke, West, Whittle, And Others. Richmond: J. W. Randolph & English, 1887.

APA

Robertson, W., Brock, R. A. (Robert Alonzo). (1887). Pocahontas, alias Matoaka: and her descendants through her marriage at Jamestown, Virginia, in April, 1614, with John Rolfe, gentleman; including the names of Alfriend, Archer, Bentley, Bernard, Bland, Bolling, Branch, Cabell, Catlett, Cary, Dandridge, Dixon, Douglas, Duval, Eldridge, Ellett, Ferguson, Field, Fleming, Gay, Gordon, Griffin, Grayson, Harrison, Hubard, Lewis, Logan, Markham, Meade, McRae, Murray, Page, Polythress, Randolph, Robertson, Skipwith, Stanard, Tazewell, Walke, West, Whittle, and others. Richmond: J. W. Randolph & English.

WorldCat OCLC Number / Unique Identifier: 1651163

https://search.worldcat.org/title/1651163

Going forward. What about a newish book?