Sunday, December 22, 2024

* "Citing" Wikipedia

 You can cite Wikipedia. Here is an example:

Chicago Style (Notes and Bibliography)Format:

 "Title of Article." Wikipedia. Last modified Month Day, Year. URL.Example:

"Sumner County, Tennessee." Wikipedia. Last modified July 27, 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_County,_Tennessee.

Notes: For Chicago Author-Date style, adapt to:

Wikipedia. 2025. "Sumner County, Tennessee." Last modified July 27, 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_County,_Tennessee.


But of course Wikipedia is not a source. What you need to do is read the Wikipedia article and find out where the editor found that fact and then go get a copy of that book and find that fact in the book and cite that as your source!



Wednesday, December 18, 2024

13. Thomas Bailey Christian - Important Christian surname families of the frontier

 

Important Christian surname families of the frontier

Gilbert: had previously arrived in New Castle, Pennsylvania in 1726 and, after living in Lancaster for a time, he and his family were among the first to settle in the Valley of Virginia in 1732.
Israel: Early Kentucky pioneer and landowner; founded Fincastle, Kentucky and Christiansburg, Virginia.
William: In Dunmore's war; led an expedition against the Overhill Cherokees, which saw little action but compelled some of the chiefs to agree to peace. He served in the commission which negotiated the "Treaty of Long Island of the Holston" with the Cherokees, signed on July 20, 1777. 

All roads led to Texas : family histories of the allied families: Pettipool, P'Pool, Pool, Poole, McCain, McCown, Greenwade, Wingard, Mayes; v. 02

Wednesday, December 11, 2024

Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 : records of the State enumerations: 1782-1785, Virginia


 this is online but I am having trouble finding a good place to search

Ancestry.com has a search but it is only for certain states:

Search for "Sceggs"

Search for "Skaggs"









What it says at FamilySearch (so is this the same as Ancestry?) I'll have to run some comparisons.


Search for "Sceggs"

Search for "Skaggs"



CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA (AKA Chalkley's)

 

CHRONICLES
OF THE
Scotch-Irish Settlement
IN
VIRGINIA
EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF
AUGUSTA COUNTY
1745-1800
BY
LYMAN CHALKLEY

Volume One

Volume Two

Here is a good overview but I wouldn't read it here because it is page by page and no search.

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Chalkley's Chronicles

Lyman Chalkley's three-volume Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County, 1745-1800 (Rosslyn, Va., 1912-1913; reprint, 1965)  is a popular reference work that contains abstracts taken from the Augusta County court records. Chalkley's Chronicles may serve as a useful source for leads and to identify original records to consult, but there are many reasons to exercise caution when using it.

Before the publication of the Chronicles, the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, which had been approached to become the publisher, commissioned genealogist and historian Thomas Forsythe Nelson to make an analysis of the work. Nelson's detailed evaluation, in which the Society as well as Herbert Putnam, who was then the Librarian of Congress, and historian J. Franklin Jameson all concurred, was that the typescript of Chalkley's abstracts that had been submitted should not be published. Nelson found that the abstracts contained an abundance of transcription errors, erroneous dates, misspelled names, material omissions, and other serious mistakes. He concluded that the abstracts were "condensed to the point of mutilation" and that many entries misrepresented the contents of the original documents.

Nelson also pointed out that Chalkley had abstracted only some of the records that pertained to persons and families in which he was interested. Publication of the abstracts could easily lead to the erroneous conclusion that the absence in the abstracts of information about a person or a family meant that there was no information on the person or family in the county court's records.

Nelson's whole report, containing detailed comparisons between Chalkley's abstracts and the original records, was published as a substantial pamphlet under the authority of the 21st Congress, National Society, Daughters of the American Revolution (Washington, D.C., 1912) with the title Report on the Chalkley Manuscripts.

Mary Smith Lockwood, an honorary vice-president-general of the Society, nevertheless proceeded on her own to have the typescript of Chalkley's abstracts published in the familiar three-volume edition.

Many users have no doubt concluded wrongly, as Nelson predicted, that the absence of references in Chalkley's Chronicles indicated a lack of data; and many other users have certainly been mislead by using Chalkley's faulty abstracts and not consulting the original records. Chalkley's Chronicles can be a valuable resource if it is used as a first finding aid for citations but not as a correct reproduction or representation of the full rich entries in the county court's original manuscript records.

An online series on Research in Virginia Documents.
Prepared by Daphne Gentry, Publications and Education Services Division.
Copyright by The Library of Virginia; this note may be reproduced in full if proper credit is given and no changes are made.

 

Use the link below to access this publication:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~chalkley/













Monday, December 2, 2024

Daguerreotype

 Daguerreotype was the first publicly available photographic process, widely used during the 1840s and 1850s. "Daguerreotype" also refers to an image created through this process.

Daguerreotype - Wikipedia

Daguerreotypes Of People From Virginia - The Gene Genie

Because I have a Daguerreotype of my ancestor, Thomas Bailey Christian, in Virginia, with his 2nd wife who is wearing a bonnet, I thought I would do an image search to see if I could learn anything. Maybe find the photographer!

Pinterest search "Daguerreotype + bonnet"

https://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=%22daguerreotype%20bonnet%22&rs=typed



Monday, November 25, 2024

Thursday, November 21, 2024

6. Daniel Smith, Tennessee Senator

 I research Daniel Smith because he was a close friend to Thomas Mastin who adopted TBC. Now, I am also working on the list of Longhunters at WeRelate and there are two Smiths - I really think they are related to our Daniel Smith - so I'm trying to figure this out now. More on this later. I am going to try to list the works by and about DS here.

*Note I'm reading that Daniel Smith went on at least one "long hunt" so I don't know why he isn't classified as a Longhunter.



Daniel Smith Frontier Statesman

purchase at Amazon

https://www.historicrockcastle.com/history
Now, I did find who I think is listed as "Longhunter James Smith" and doesn't seem to be related to our Daniel, but I'm still looking. Another problem: No mention of a Henry. So who was Longhunter Henry Smith? Was he related to Daniel? Mystery continues.
James Smith (frontiersman)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Smith_(frontiersman)
oddly, does not say he was a Longhunter but does say it other places on the Internet

The Long Hunter’s Legacy: James Smith’s Survival in Appalachia

https://storiesofappalachia.com/?p=3031








Tuesday, November 12, 2024

3. Thomas Bailey Christian Locations

 TAZEWELL




from History of Settlement & Indian Wars of Tazewell County, Virginia



Tazewell County Historical Society

Tazewell County Public Library

FamilySearch Tazewell

Tazewell Co. / Buchanan Co., VA, Genealogy

Tazewell Circuit Court: Genealogy Research (birth, death, wills)

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Montgomery County, Virginia

Montgomery County was established in 1777 from Fincastle County
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Don't forget to consider Wythe, Wayne, Tazewell. Don't omitt counties in the Carolina states, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Georgia. Those are the places with the keys to the connections you all seek. Be sure to check Georgia. Heavy Shawano connections are there to our Christians.

:) Red Wolf

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Thomas Mastin's papers for the orphans are found in Tennessee.
There is also one from Hezekiah Whitt in Virginia for the recognition of Thomas Christian as a Cornstalk orphan. Montgomery County is the place to look.

:) Red Wolf
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Wythe County

I have seen someone write that TBC married 1st on 4 JUN 1793 in Wythe County. Hmm, let's see if we can find a source for that.







TENNESSEE
Sumner County

Longhunters traveled into the area as early as the 1760s, following existing Indian and buffalo trails. By the early 1780s, they had erected several trading posts in the region. The most prominent was Mansker's Station, which was built by Kasper Mansker near a salt lick (where modern Goodlettsville would later develop). Another was Bledsoe's Station, built by Isaac Bledsoe at Castilian Springs.[1] Sumner County was organized in 1786, just 3 years after the end of the American Revolutionary War, when Tennessee was still the western part of North Carolina.[citation needed]

"Sumner County, Tennessee," Wikimedia Foundation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_County,_Tennessee


all of Tennessee

Tennessee Virtual Archive
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North Carolina
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ΣTBC | ΣSkaggs | ΣJRedWolf











Whole Earth Catalog, Shelter

 I loved reading the Whole Earth Catalog when I was young. So I bought it for my new library. It is not available at Amazon so I had to get mine from eBay. When I did, there weren't any clean copies of the original 1968 $5 edition so I bought a newer on:


Now, I just looked at eBay and there were several good condition copies, so I bought one.


eBay Search

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Earth_Catalog

Whole Earth Scanning Project

https://wholeearth.info/

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Also, I remember a book called Shelter that I loved - that one is still in print so I bought one at Amazon.

available at Amazon

There are more variations of this book and the author also wrote a book about septic systems


available at Amazon

Apparently, Lloyd Kahn was the "Shelter" editor for the original WEC and when I googled him, wow, he has a lot of writing on the Internet. He had a blog and now he has a Substack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Kahn

https://www.lloydkahn.com/ blog

https://lloydkahn.substack.com/

https://www.instagram.com/lloyd.kahn/

Lloyd Kahn books at Amazon

There is a video interview of Kahn on Kirsten Dirksen's Youtube 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBN5WakKYbQ

Σhomesteading



Monday, September 30, 2024

We Went Off Grid In 30 Days With $25,000

 This is the best advice for starting an off grid tiny cabin that I have seen:


IBC container (intermediate bulk container)



Σhomesteading



Tuesday, September 10, 2024

Genealogy TV on YouTube

 I had never heard of this - but she is really good!

Genealogy TV on YouTube



https://www.youtube.com/@GenealogyTV

https://www.facebook.com/Genealogytv/

https://genealogytv.org/


Evidence Explained & The Chicago Manual of Style & Dewey Decimal

 

I am going to try to figure out how to cite email & letters (AKA correspondence). I will be using Evidence Explained & The Chicago Manual of Style

some of my questions

1. If the email is written to you do you have to send a second email asking if you can cite first email?
        I found this myself: Yes you need to get permission from the original emailer. I know this seems obvious, I just wanted to find sources for this answer and I did.
                a. Mills, Elizabeth Shown. Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace, 4th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2024), 174.
                b. Editorial Staff. The Chicago Manual of Style, 17th ed. (Chicago ; London : The University of Chicago Press, 2017), 851

2. Citing something means the reader should be able to access the original, correct? How can that be if the email is only on the computer and not published?

I'm going to be asking these questions at the Evidence Explained forums


And reading The Chicago Manual of Style

(There is an online (CMOS), free trial, and I think you can ask questions there? I will try it and report back)

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Part B citing books when there are multiple editions

I need to be able to cite one particular edition of a book when there are multiple editions.

For this example I am going to use

Pocahontas, Alias Matoaka, and Her Descendants
by Wyndham Robertson 1887

the first thing to look at is the actual title page


Since there was no classification system at this time the only way to distinguish this edition would be to use the publication year (1887) and maybe the page numbers (no, because Internet sources are not consistent on how many page numbers of first edition)?
This is before ISBN, so it won't have one, UNLESS someone assigned a number "posthumously", which it looks like someone did:
ISBN (still searching for isbn number)

The Chicago Manual of Style citation 2024:
Robertson, Wyndham. Pocahontas: Alias Matoaka, and Her Descendants Through Her Marriage at Jamestown, Virginia, in April, 1614, with John Rolfe, Gentleman; Including the Names of Alfriend, Archer, Bentley, Bernard, Bland, Boling, Branch, Cabell, Catlett, Cary, Dandridge, Dixon, Douglas, Duval, Eldridge, Ellett, Ferguson, Field, Fleming, Gay, Gordon, Griffin, Grayson, Harrison, Hubard, Lewis, Logan, Markham, Meade, McRae, Murray, Page, Poythress, Randolph, Robertson, Skipwith, Stanard, Tazewel, Walke, West, Whittle, and Others. United States: J. W. Randolph & English, 1887.

MLA

Robertson, Wyndham, 1803-1888, and R. A. (Robert Alonzo) Brock. Pocahontas, Alias Matoaka: And Her Descendants Through Her Marriage At Jamestown, Virginia, In April, 1614, With John Rolfe, Gentleman; Including the Names of Alfriend, Archer, Bentley, Bernard, Bland, Bolling, Branch, Cabell, Catlett, Cary, Dandridge, Dixon, Douglas, Duval, Eldridge, Ellett, Ferguson, Field, Fleming, Gay, Gordon, Griffin, Grayson, Harrison, Hubard, Lewis, Logan, Markham, Meade, McRae, Murray, Page, Polythress, Randolph, Robertson, Skipwith, Stanard, Tazewell, Walke, West, Whittle, And Others. Richmond: J. W. Randolph & English, 1887.

APA

Robertson, W., Brock, R. A. (Robert Alonzo). (1887). Pocahontas, alias Matoaka: and her descendants through her marriage at Jamestown, Virginia, in April, 1614, with John Rolfe, gentleman; including the names of Alfriend, Archer, Bentley, Bernard, Bland, Bolling, Branch, Cabell, Catlett, Cary, Dandridge, Dixon, Douglas, Duval, Eldridge, Ellett, Ferguson, Field, Fleming, Gay, Gordon, Griffin, Grayson, Harrison, Hubard, Lewis, Logan, Markham, Meade, McRae, Murray, Page, Polythress, Randolph, Robertson, Skipwith, Stanard, Tazewell, Walke, West, Whittle, and others. Richmond: J. W. Randolph & English.


WorldCat OCLC Number / Unique Identifier: 1651163





Going forward. What about a newish book?






Lake Pend Oreille

 Found a great online map of Lake Pend Oreille that shows depth and everything:



paper map from Amazon


Bathymetric map of Lake Pend Oreille and Pend Oreille River, Idaho

downloadable 2-plate pdf of Lake Pend Oreille 1996

ΣIdaho





Sunday, August 25, 2024

Journals of the House of Burgesses

The Journals of the House of Burgesses of Virginia, 1619-1776 are the official minutes of the lower house of the colonial Virginia legislature. Throughout the colonial period, the legislature met frequently but irregularly, with sessions lasting from a few days to several weeks; in some years, the legislature did not meet at all. " -- section of book, pg. _ or v. _

Contents: v. 1. 1619-1658/59 (1915) -- v. 2. 1659/60-1693 (1914) -- v. 3. 1695-1696, 1696-1697, 1698, 1699, 1700-1702 (1913) -- v. 4. 1702/03-1705, 1705-1706, 1710-1712 (1912) -- v. 5. 1712-1714, 1715, 1718, 1720-1722, 1723-1726 (1912) -- v. 6. 1727-1734, 1736-1740 (1910) -- v. 7. 1742-1747, 1748-1749 (1909) -- v. 8. 1752-1755, 1756-1758 (1909) -- v. 9. 1758-1761 (1908) -- v. 10. 1761-1765 (1907) -- v. 11. 1766-1769 (1906) -- v. 12. 1770-1772 (1906) -- v. 13. 1773-1776, including the records of the Committee of Correspondence (1905).

Edited and published by authority of the Library Board, Virginia State Library(1).

this description is from FamilySearch - that page has a link list for each volume

Archive.org (I think all the volumes are here?)

The online books page - convenient list includes year (unlike FamilySearch list that only includes volume #)

available for purchase at Amazon if you know which volume you want

1. Note that the current Library of Virginia was formerly known as the Virginia State Library and as the Virginia State Library and Archives.

ΣVirginia


Friday, August 23, 2024

The Handbook of North American Indians

 The Handbook of North American Indians is a series of edited scholarly and reference volumes in Native American studies, published by the Smithsonian Institution beginning in 1978


I noticed this in the Wikipedia article about Aaron Carapella - that he used these books as a reference to make his maps.

So I am trying to find where to read them. SO far no luck and they are 300 dollars each on eBay

WORK IN PROGRESS


Σindigenous

Thursday, August 8, 2024

Mystery Photo Game

I am trying to start a Mystery Photo Game. The key is the right hashtags on X. My #$%&* website that I love has a period in the middle.- memory.industries - And you can't have periods in hashtags., Grrr.

I guess it is unique enough to use without the period so the hashtag will be #memoryindustries on X if you would like to try to guess the mystery.

Search X/Twitter for my Mystery Photo Game #memoryindustries

First Mystery:





Sunday, July 21, 2024

Watering, planting new trees

 Here is a video of how to plant a new tree with a watering system. After about 2 years you would remove the tube - but just watch the video for how to do this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UggqhnihmyY



I have to say the reason I am looking into this is that I have lost 3 trees in the last couple of years - new trees I tried to establish - and I don't think they got enough water so I am experimenting with better ways to start new trees. This one looks promising.

Σhomesteading  | Σwater

Thursday, July 18, 2024

Pocahontas, alias Matoaka, and her descendants

NOTE: I am just beginning to try to sort this out and it is really confusing with the different revisions which each have different re-print years. I may have made mistakes. Please comment if you see any. I'm sorting thru - Sept 2024 - and when I am done I will do a double check. So stay tuned to updates!


Since I am studying Virginia history I can't really get away from doing research on Matoaka even though there have been a thousand books written about her and I can't read them all. I am going to start by sorting out the first (?) book about her genealogy - below - there have been updates and different versions published since the original and I will sort that out here. 

[List of books about Pocahontas https://history-on-trial.lib.lehigh.edu/trial/pocahontas/bib.php ]


Pocahontas, alias Matoaka, and her descendants through her marriage at Jamestown, Virginia, in April, 1614, with John Rolfe, gentleman; including the names of Alfriend, Archer, Bentley, Bernard, Bland, Boling, Branch, Cabell, Catlett, Cary, Dandridge, Dixon, Douglas, Duval, Eldridge, Ellett, Ferguson, Field, Fleming, Gay, Gordon, Griffin, Grayson, Harrison, Hubard, Lewis, Logan, Markham, Meade, McRae, Murray, Page, Poythress, Randolph, Robertson, Skipwith, Stanard, Tazewell, Walke, West, Whittle, and others by Robertson, Wyndham, 1803-1888 Publication date 1887


by Robertson, Wyndham, 1803-1888

Publication date 1887

Richmond : J.W. Randolph & English

search at ancestry

https://search.worldcat.org/title/12695344

https://search.worldcat.org/formats-editions/963597579

WorldCat OCLC Number / Unique Identifier: 824616935

Call Number 929.273 P75br - this just goes to genealogies


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Pocahontas' descendants : a revision, enlargement, and extension of the list as set out by Wyndham Robertson in his book Pocahontas and her descendants (1887)

by Stuart E. Brown, Lorraine F. Myers, Eileen M. Chappel

Publisher: Pocahontas Foundation, [Berrryville, Va.], 1985


Amazon

Publisher ‏ : ‎ Genealogical Publishing Co.; 3rd edition (January 1, 1997)

ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 0806314079

ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0806314075

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Corrections and additions to Pocahontas' descendants

by Stuart E. Brown, Lorraine F. Myers, Eileen M. Chappel

Publisher: Pocahontas Foundation, [Berrryville, Va.], 1992

ISBN-13 978-0317405163

FamilySearch 

Archive.org

Amazon ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0006EZN2A

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Third Corrections And Additions To Pocahontas’ Descendants
by Stuart E. Brown, Jr. and Lorraine F. Myers; Published: 1997, Reprinted: 2003; Softcover; 197 pp; ISBN 9780806315423; Item GPC716
The Pocahontas Foundation, based upon information furnished to it, has compiled a tentative list of the descendants of Pocahontas, a list set forth in Pocahontas' Descendants. This present volume, the third involving additions and corrections to the existing work, contains more than 120 pages of changes and revisions, with a forty-page index of 6,500 names. The name of the spouse of a Pocahontas descendant is listed even though that spouse is not a descendant of Pocahontas, but the name of a parent of such a spouse is not indexed unless, of course, that parent is a descendant of Pocahontas as well. This new volume is an indispensable adjunct to contemporary Pocahontas scholarship.

Published: 1997, Reprinted: 2003

ISBN 9780806315423

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Pocahonta's (sic) Descendants, With Corrections and Additions
Fourth and Fifth Corrections and Additions
by Stuart E. Brown, Lorraine F. Myers 2001 and 2004, 2090



ISBN 0-8063-5242-6


Amazon Publisher ‏ : ‎ Genealogical Publishing Company (June 1, 2009)
ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 0806352426
ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0806352428


ΣPowhatan